Posted: 02/07/2013 6:00:16 PM
I'm getting to be in need of a new front tire on my 2012 XR 650L. I am wondering about the D606 for it. Most of my riding is pavement, but I do like to venture offroad on pipelines and such. Can anyone give any info on how well these tires hold up mileage wise and traction performance? I am not dead set on this tire, and if someone could recommend a good one I am willing to read your opinion on a good front tire for my bike. I have a Heidenau K60 Scout on the rear and it is doing fine after 2000 miles, virtually no noticeable wear.
Reply by jjones006 on 02/08/2013 01:40:35 AM
From what I have read the majority DON'T like the D606 FRONT tire, If I recall they said it was a "sketchy" tire? and can wash out with very little warning. I have been reading that several people like the MT21 for the front, I have tried the Scorpion Pro and really liked it but it's pretty knobby so I'm not sure if that's what your going for? I got 3000 miles out of mine but it was pretty worn by that point,in the picture is the worn Scorpion Pro and the new Surge-I, that I am about to try, it was also a recommended tire, let it be known that even though my rides are 50/50 dirt/pavement I shop tires mainly for D.O.T. dirt.
Reply by Bistineau on 02/08/2013 06:07:57 AM
Thanks jjones, I did a search on here, but the only results I have seen on the D606 was from several years ago from guys that had just put them on. Nothing on how good/bad they are on wear/traction. That new tire you have looks to have more contact area than the old one. Should be a better overall tire. I'm not in dire need of one yet, so thought I might start gathering ideas on the best for my situation. Don't want to wait until the last minute before finding the right tire. What brand is the new tire?
Reply by GlennF on 02/08/2013 09:03:15 AM
I have a 606 on the front of my XT225 and it works well on or off road. The XT225 is quite a bit lighter than a XR650L however.
Reply by Thumper2000 on 02/08/2013 1:29:26 PM
How about trying some Michelin ac10's front and rear. They are a dot approved knobby tire intended mostly for offroad use. However with that said i found no bad effects with them on the road whatsoever. A lot of guys around these parts swear by them. I run 20lbs in the front and back and grip well street or dirt.
Reply by jjones006 on 02/08/2013 3:15:35 PM
Cheng ShinOriginally posted by Bistineau
What brand is the new tire?
Reply by Bistineau on 02/09/2013 04:23:50 AM
I just checked the Michelin site and the T-63 looks like a better choice than the AC-10 you mentioned. More knobs, closer together than tha AC-10. Not looking for a rear tire just yet anyway. The Heidenau Scout is holding up just fine for now, only shopping for front rubber to go with it.
Reply by Bistineau on 02/09/2013 08:50:52 AM
I'm now considering the Continental TwinduroTKC 80, this looks like it will fit the bill. Anybody got any experience with this one? Most of the reviews I have read mention high mileage and good traction on & offroad. Some claim 9-10,000 miles on this tire, on 900/1200CC machines. So it should do good on the 650 L.
Reply by Thumper2000 on 02/09/2013 3:54:34 PM
Just read the reviews on the T-63. I like what people are saying about them. Although i am biased toward the ac-10's, i think i will try out a T-63 on the rear. I find that although the ac-10's are an awesome tire they wear out fast. I average 1000 miles/rear tire. With what the reviews say about the T-63's i should be able to double that without any loss of traction or performance.
Reply by Bistineau on 02/09/2013 4:33:02 PM
For me, if they wear out fast, they have lost any awesomeness they may have had. My stock rear, was pretty much worn out at 3300 miles and I would prefer that to 1000 miles. The stock was a Bridgestone Trail Wing. So I'm looking for something longer lasting than that. The stock front has 5498 on it right now and is getting questionable on the tread left. That's why I am starting now the search for a replacement.
Reply by jjones006 on 02/09/2013 9:10:34 PM
I don't know about the front tire but don't get one for the rear if you ever touch mud with it...but having said that, it might be better then some more street oriented tire, with good mileage. I got 2960 miles out of my rear tire. I probably should have replaced it sooner then I did though... the new tire next to it is a Dunlop D606, which so far is my preferred rear tire at the moment. Reply by Bistineau on 02/15/2013 3:47:45 PM
So I decided to give the Conti TKC 80 a go and got one on order today. It should be in next Tuesday sometime. We'll see how this one does for my riding situations.
Reply by Thumper2000 on 04/05/2013 8:15:25 PM
Had a chance to try out a Michelin t63 on the rear in the dirt. Found that it is no where as good as the ac-10's. I find that the ac-10's bite a lot better with more grip where as the t63's just want to spin. Have to see if the mileage is a lot better with this t63.
Reply by Thumper2000 on 04/18/2013 4:19:41 PM
So i have had a chance to really try out the rear t63 in all types of terrain. For hard packed dirtroads and pavement they work ok. But for everything else i find they suck and can be downright scary at times.I cannot imagine having this tire on the front as well. They might last longer than the ac10's but imo are a far inferior tire for anything serious offroad.
Reply by Thumper2000 on 05/03/2013 5:22:10 PM
I know i might be sounding like a broken record, but man this rear t63 is terrible off road. It seems to be wearing well but at what cost. Tonight the back tire was either spinning or kicking out from right to left big time when ridden aggressively with a heavy right hand. If i wasn't so cheap i would have changed it already. cmon wear out already...lol.
Reply by Bistineau on 05/04/2013 03:36:03 AM
This front tire is working out nicely for me. Plenty of grip on gravel, dirt and pavement. I put it on at 5564 miles and now have a little over 6400 with very little noticeable wear, plenty of rubber and traction left. If this one holds up good I may want to try one on the back when it comes time for another back there.
Reply by Thumper2000 on 05/15/2013 5:52:15 PM
well, the t63 is about done. I got 1000km(600 miles) on it and its beat! So it lasted ONLY as long as the ac-10 which is a street legal mx tire, but was no where near as good as the ac-10 as far as performance. That t63 got me stuck several times out in the woods. i would not put another one on even if it was free!!
Reply by Bistineau on 05/16/2013 1:31:17 PM
Yesterday I brought home a Continental TKC 80 Twinduro for the rear. Gonna mount it up this weekend and see how good it lasts. It is the same as my front tire, only 18" instead of 21". I have a little over 3300 on the Heidenau K60 Scout. I may leave it on a few more days and get some more miles on it. That's better than what your getting Thumper.
Reply by Regnarf on 07/06/2013 09:55:03 AM
30 years ago I rode with the Metzler Enduro and thought they were the best but, at the time I was only running street. Now I ride almost exclusively on the dirt. Been running the D606 in the front and the MT21 in the rear. I tried the MT21 in the front but found the D606 wore better. Hooks up great with the tires set to 12-16 lbs.
I get about 1000 useful dirt miles out of the rear and maybe 2000 out of the front. Here's the fun part, once the tires are no good for dirt use, I put the 15/45 sprockets back on, stiffen up the suspension a little and shred the back roads for a few rides.
Reply by mudd_slinger on 07/23/2013 7:07:05 PM
Just put a D606 on the rear 2 weeks ago and the tire has impressed me so far, it will plow through some serious mud. The tread self clean's and boy will it throw a serious roost. I'll give it 2 thumbs up !
Reply by jjxtrider on 08/02/2013 3:55:34 PM
I have a D606 on one of my rear rims for my XL(Pirelli Scorpion for the front of this set), It is a really nice tire, little bit noisy on asphalt but not bad and it is a knobby. I am trying to just run it when I am hitting dirt roads and offroad to help it last a bit longer. For the rest of my street riding I have a second set of front/rear rims with IRC GB110's. For a cheap tire they are pretty nice. So far with just over 500miles not much wear at all, quiet and ride smooth, haven't had any washouts or even sketchy times on gravel or mild offroad. Never tried any serious loose dirt or mud yet. I'm getting another set for my XT600.
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